What are: Dave Taylor & Joseph McCullough doing for PATMOCON 2020?

In this final chat before the convention I talk to Dave Taylor who will be running the entrepreneur's alley (indie games), and Joseph McCullough the creator of Frostgrave (amongst other great games) about what they have planned for the weekend. If you STILL havent got a ticket then give your head a wobble and get one here: https://www.paintalltheminis.com/patmocon-2020